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FACILITY COSTS QUESTIONS

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Facility NameYou must enter a name, or the Long Term View Summary sheet will not display entered data.
Total Entry FeeEnter the amount of the Entry Fee of the facility. See below for an explanation of Entry Fees
Amortization Rate*Click here for an amortization rate explanation. Enter the Monthly rate.

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Entry Fees: 

 

In a CCRC (Continuing Care Retirement Community), entering as an Independent Resident, the Entry Fee is based on the size of the dwelling accommodation you chose to live in.  A three bedroom townhouse will be a lot more expensive than a studio apartment.  My Mom lives in a studio apartment.  So, the Entry Fees we saw were from $3500, for an Assisted Living (AL) & Nursing Care Facility (NC) to $92,000 in a CCRC.  Why such a big range in price?  Many reasons, including the size of the long term care facility, the size of the dwellings, the amount of amenities included in the basic monthly fee and, most importantly, the cost and quality of the long term care.  The two facilities we saw that had the largest Entry Fees, also had discounted monthly fees for assisted living costs and skilled nursing care costs for qualified residents, should they need them in the future.  Both had discounts that were substantial.  The question is how many years in skilled nursing care, and/or assisted living, will you require over the remainder of your life?  Senior Care Facility Costs

These are not easy questions to raise, or to answer.  But maybe this will help.  Under The National Vital Statistics Reports, Volume 54, Number 14, April 19, 2006, United States Life Tables, 2003, by Elizabeth Arias, Ph.D., Division of Vital Statistics, revised March 28, 2007, you will find Tables 1 – 9 very interesting.  I’m sure there are other sources of information, but this source will give you a good idea of your life expectancy.  For Example, on Table 6, my 81 year old mother has a life expectancy of 8.9 years.  Remember, this is an average.  But, essentially, we needed to plan ahead for 9 years, at least.  In the same table, a white woman (there are tables broken down by race and gender) who is past 71 has a life expectancy of 15.2 years, on average.  Now let’s take a minute to think about this.  At this very second, we are saying that the average 71 year old woman will live to 86.2 years, while the average 81 year old woman will live to 89.9 years.  Does that sound funny to you?  Here is the link.    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr54/nvsr54_14.pdf    The 71 year old is younger, yet she will live a shorter life, on average, than an 81 year old, as calculated when the tables were made.  Why is that?  It’s simple, actually.  The longer you live, the better your chances of living longer.  

       

*Of the Entry Fees I saw that were $10,000 and up, the facilities AMORTIZED them over a period time, usually 50 months.  To amortize something is to gradually, over time reduce, or pay down, its value.  How does this effect you?  Well, if you paid a $10,000 Entry Fee, stayed at the facility for 24 months and for whatever reason decided to leave, according to the contract, you may be entitled to a refund of a portion of the Entry Fee.  If the facility amortizes the Entry Fee over a period of 50 months, that means they ‘take’ 2% (50 months times 2% equals 100%) of the Entry Fee every month.  If you stayed 24 months, the Entry Fee would be amortized 48%.  According to the contract, if all your bills are paid you should receive $5200 ($10,000 - 48% ($4800) equals $5200) after you leave in good standing.  Others costs associated with termination should be spelled out in the contract.  Of course, if you leave after 50 months, there is nothing left to refund.  The contract, if it has an amortization rate, will tell you the rate.  A particular facility may have a different amortization rate than 2%.  Whatever it is (48 months, instead of 50 months, would be 2.08333%) fill that rate in.  If the facility has an Entry Fee but does not amortize it, fill in 100%.

       

Monthly Fees: 

 

We have briefly touched on the different levels of care.  At this point we need to look a bit closer.  At a CCRC, usually, a person would apply to become an Independent Resident.  From being Independent, when a resident can no longer live independently, they progress to what is called Assisted Living.  Depending on the facility, there can be many levels of assisted living.  If the resident requires more intensive care than assisted living can provide, they can receive skilled Nursing Care, if available.  

Click here for an explanation of Levels of Care.

Remember, this spreadsheet attempts to approximate the costs you have in the present. As to the future, we have no crystal ball. Yet, we can play with the numbers and see how costs may turn out based on particular scenarios. So even if you can live independently, you must fill-in the sections for assisted living and skilled nursing care. Then we will be able to project into the future.

The Basic Monthly Fee should be based on the size of the dwelling, or accommodation, you have chosen. Fill in the amount for the accommodation you have chosen. Independent Living may have a monthly property tax fee. If a facility has only one assisted living level, use that basic monthly cost for all three levels on our spreadsheet. For Nursing Care, choose the accommodation you prefer (semi-private or private) with the highest level of skilled nursing care offered.

Let’s continue and see how things shape up. 

         

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Meals 
Laundry 
Cleaning/Linen 
Transportation 
Telephone, TV, Internet 
Medication Assistance 
Renters Insurance 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

Independent Living (IND) – Independent living is a phrase that we would all be able to define.  Yet, if we shared our definitions they might be slightly different.  The Health Care Community has issued definitions and guidelines that seek to standardize how the government/industry views you, your state of health, and what level of care is appropriate for your given status.  The focus of the rating system concentrates on the ability to perform certain daily activities.  According to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activities_of_daily_living , Instrumental Activities of Daily Living (IADL) are defined as activities related to independent living and include preparing meals, managing money, shopping for groceries or personal items, performing light or heavy housework (includes laundry) and using a telephone.   [Note: You will notice that most facilities offer some free meals, additional meal packages for cost, light and heavy housecleaning for free or cost and scheduled transportation for shopping to their independent residents.  This, of course, allows you to continue living independently past the IADL level.]

Assisted Living 1 (AL1), Assisted Living Level 2 (AL2), Assisted Living Level 3 (AL3) – Each facility I reviewed had different care levels associated with assisted living.  Some had only one, some had five.  Depending on the level/loss of ability to perform the IADLs, the facility will rate you.  If your skills have deteriorated significantly, the facility may ask you to move to Assisted Living.   In the definition of IADLs, cited above, there are five basic categories of activities.  The method of evaluating these categories can be as complex as 50 questions with five possible answers each.  Each of the possible answers is ‘weighted’ with a point system.  As in Independent Living, the facility will seek to maintain you in the lowest assisted level (AL1) as much as possible.   

Why, in our spreadsheet, do we have three levels of assisted living?  Whether or not the facility has more than three levels, or less than three levels, as you age you will require additional assistance which will cost you more money.  I thought it best to have three levels.  If you are looking at a facility with only one level of AL, the basic monthly fee will remain the same for all three levels.    

Nursing Care – I have listed only one level of Nursing Care.  I saw facilities that offered two levels of nursing care.  Skilled nursing care is the type of care I have included in this level.  The Health Care Community looks at other activities as well as IADLs.  According Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activities_of_daily_living , Activities of Daily Living (ADL) are defined as activities related to personal care and include bathing or showering, dressing, getting in or out of bed or a chair, using the toilet, and eating. Having difficulty in performing them can require intense intervention by health care staff.  As I mentioned above, many facilities seek to keep residents in progressive levels of assisted living (AL3) even though they may have slight trouble with some ADLs.   Severe impairment of ADLs, rehabilitation services and hospital transfers are some examples where Nursing Care may be required. 

 
Most facilities for independent living provide one meal a day, sometimes of your choice.  If you want additional meals there is a fee.  At assisted living or nursing care, most facilities provide 3 meals a day included in the basic monthly fee.  Many facilities will offer you a free lunch, or dinner, during your tour.  Do not pass up the opportunity to sample the cuisine.  As an independent resident, your dwelling should come with a kitchen.  If you opt to prepare your own meals for breakfast and lunch, you must calculate the monthly grocery costs and include the total in this area.
Fill in the amount it will cost you for personal laundry.  Some facilities will only provide laundry services for assisted living and nursing care.  Most facilities charge for personal laundry no matter what the level of care.   

House Cleaning/
Linen Service

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Most of the facilities did weekly, light housecleaning and heavy housecleaning, once or twice yearly, included in the basic monthly cost.  Most of the facilities I saw also included linen service, if you used their linens.  That included removing and replacing the linens.  If, for any reason, you require additional cleaning services, there is usually a charge.  

Transportation

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Most facilities have transportation, within a particular radius, at no additional charge.  They may also have preset times to take residents shopping, to entertainment events, religious services and medical services.   If you will need services beyond what is provided, estimate it here.

Telephone, TV, Internet

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Check the contract and/or ancillary charges schedule and the prices for combination services from local purveyors.  This item can be very important.  For instance, I do not live close to my mother, so speaking to her on the computer with a video camera has become a valued means of communication.  

Medication Assistance

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There seem to be many levels associated with this service, depending on the amount of medication and the intervals.  Check the contract and/or ancillary charges schedule.  The more you are able to purchase and administer your own medications, the less you will have to pay.   

Renters Insurance

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Certainly, if you are living as an independent resident, and in many facilities that offer assisted living, you may be required to show proof of insurance for your possessions and liability coverage.  This coverage is commonly called renters’ insurance. 
 

 

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